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New universe?

Postby mj12games » Sat Apr 18, 2009 4:09 am

With the flurry of activity around SFO lately, and the recent talk of an "official" background for Starmada, I've been giving a little thought to universe development (never my strong suit... I tend to get distracted by shiny things... :))

With the snow coming down again today (over a foot, with more tomorrow) I've had plenty of time to sit around and think about this. Here's what I've got:

I'm thinking of this as a "Star Wars" type setting, with far-flung empires and vast numbers of peoples and races; so much so that it can only be described in sweeping arcs rather than specific details.

Forgive the vagueness of what follows: very little is fixed in my mind...

A thousand-year empire has collapsed under the advance of an extra-galactic threat. That threat has been eliminated (we hope), but those who remain aren't exactly sure that they want to reinstate the empire as it was. Old rivalries and even older ambitions see an opportunity. A new government of a sort has been put in place, but it is deliberately weak and ineffectual.

Among the factions now at large, the most powerful (and thus the most threatening to the others) is that of the NAME? Think of a conflation of the Borg from Star Trek, the droid army from Star Wars, the Cylons from the original Battlestar Galactica -- fully robotic foot soldiers (or are they?), led by cyborg-type officers, directed by ... WHO?

Another faction of note is the Emperor in exile -- when the capital was sacked by the invaders, the seat of government was moved far away. Most of his old subjects don't recognize the legitimacy of this Emperor -- they consider the exile to be a completely different entity -- but the Emperor believes himself to be the legitimate successor to the old Empire. He plans to reclaim his birthright...

The Assembly is the newly-constituted centralized structure, but it has no power of its own. Although many of the old members of the empire send representatives to maintain appearances, it has not been invested with any real authority. It has managed to establish a military of sorts, but it is little more than a collection of member-contributed units (think the blue helmets of UN peacekeepers).

The remaining factions are ... ? I don't see them as all fitting a particular mold. Some are the noble houses of the old Empire, others are subject kingdoms getting their first taste of freedom in a thousand years, still others are corporate entities who see the chance to make a buck (or a credit).
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Re: New universe?

Postby go0gleplex » Sat Apr 18, 2009 2:32 pm

and of course there's always the barbarians at the gates....pirates....and anarchists!

General outline works. Sort of a galactic wide low key civil war of sorts...with the proponents generally generated from the internal crash of the empire, tech levels would be an even keel 0 for development I assume? Or a bump one lower one sort of thing?

Was reading a book with a similar concept to this....Empire or Emporer of the Dawn or such title. The legitimate emporer and his family were assassinated by another noble/group of fleet officers...the one guy they missed ran for a stronghold waiting for order to be restored...various system commanders went conquistador, though only one of them did so for the empire and not hisself...and of course there were the aliens at the borders trying to take advantage of things too. Sounds a lot like what you're generally outlining Dan. :)
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Re: New universe?

Postby mj12games » Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:29 pm

go0gleplex wrote:General outline works. Sort of a galactic wide low key civil war of sorts...with the proponents generally generated from the internal crash of the empire, tech levels would be an even keel 0 for development I assume? Or a bump one lower one sort of thing?


This isn't specifically for Starmada -- but yes, that would be the idea. No real powerful factions (otherwise, the political instability wouldn't last very long).
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Re: New universe?

Postby mj12games » Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:51 pm

First on the list of things to flesh out... the "cybroid" forces of Magistrate Fuzhen Hitt:

Hitt rose to prominence during the wars, having been governor of one of the outlying provinces. While many of his counterparts were content to stay out of harm's way, citing the need to protect their own borders in order to resist Imperial calls for assistance, Hitt not only responded to his liege, he personally led his forces into battle. It was he who directed the defense of Thellas Minor in CR 2288, where his entire retinue was all but annihilated protecting the evacuation of thousands of Imperial troops.

For many years, Hitt was thought to have been killed at Thellas, hailed throughout the Empire as a fallen Hero. But in CR 2291, after the evacuation of the capital, Hitt resurfaced at the Second Battle of the Rim, at the head of his mechanical army -- the origin of which is still a mystery. Hitt and his armies played a crucial role in driving the Invaders out of the galaxy. Once victory was assured, only the treachery of one of his most trusted Generals prevented Hitt from claiming the Imperial throne for himself -- giving the Assembly time to consolidate its power.

Hitt is one of the few Successors who openly refutes the Assembly's right to rule -- he claims to act on behalf of the Emperor in exile, even though his forces have fought with the Golden Legions on several occasions. As a result, he has few allies; and there are few other powers in the galaxy whose differences are so great as to preclude them from joining forces against Hitt when necessary.
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Re: New universe?

Postby go0gleplex » Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:15 am

possibly poor taste...but I gotta say it.

Are followers of Fuzhen Hitt called Hittlers? :geek:

I can see self repair capability with this group. Using their fallen for spare parts on the march...crew killing weapons would have pretty minimal effect too since they're not organic and could be considered integral components of the ship. (Berserkers anyone?)

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Re: New universe?

Postby mj12games » Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:34 am

go0gleplex wrote:Are followers of Fuzhen Hitt called Hittlers?


That'd be a no...

Hittites, maybe. :)
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Re: New universe?

Postby murtalianconfederacy » Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:49 am

(based on the idea of it being Starmada-related)

I nominate the Benevolent and Righteous Empire of the Kwarworc Ercnal (doffs cap to Terry Pratchett)

The BREKE was one of the founding members of the empire, but they have existed through several such periods in galactic history. However, most of the time it was easier to leave the Ercnal alone than to confront them. Their phenomenal ship defences combined with the tactical flexibility of their weapons meant that any confrontation lasted shortly.

Luckily, there are a few factors that has kept the Ercnal from taking over the galaxy. One is their extremely low birthrate combined with their extremely old age. It is said that the Imperator is over a thousand years old--but that has yet to be substantiated. Lifespans of 500 years are common.

The second is their isolationist policy. Despite their being a member of the empire, Ercnal space was always given 'special' status. Do not trouble us, the Ercnal seemed to say, and we won't wipe your species off the face of the universe. In return for the special status, the Imperial forces did not have to worry about raiders or other troublesome elements nearby, which eased the coffers of the Empire...slightly.

The third, a byproduct of the first, is their extremely slow rate of technological advancement. Part of this is due to the fact that the Ercnal defences are so excellent, but mostly because when your average lifespan is 500 years, you don't tend to rock the boat too much.

After the empire ended, the Ercnal did no more other than to enforce stability on the border regions and prepare for the end of empires as the Ercnal have done so many times before.
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Re: New universe?

Postby thedugan » Mon Apr 20, 2009 1:43 pm

So, rather than develop SFO, we're writing a new setting?

Might SFO be a PART of this new setting? The government you describe isn't that far away.
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Re: New universe?

Postby mj12games » Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:35 pm

thedugan wrote:So, rather than develop SFO, we're writing a new setting?


Not necessarily instead of ... but yes, I would like effort to go into this first. Mainly because I'm not sure what I want to do with SFO, and I don't want people getting too far ahead of me. ;)

Might SFO be a PART of this new setting? The government you describe isn't that far away.


I suppose it's possible -- but then again, the SFO setting is more situation-specific (collapse of the wormhole network) that would short-circuit a lot of what I'd like to see in this one.
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Re: New universe?

Postby mj12games » Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:36 pm

murtalianconfederacy wrote:I nominate the Benevolent and Righteous Empire of the Kwarworc Ercnal (doffs cap to Terry Pratchett)


That looks so much like it should be something spelled backwards, but Lancre Crowrawk doesn't mean anything to me. :)

And why are we doffing a cap to Mr .Pratchett?
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